Yes are right...I do agree and that is why I participate.
I was speaking more literally...meaning while "participating" in the list I may not be doing "x" with one of my database. It was meant in a "time management" perspective and for the "all about me" perspective.
I to have told my clients/boss "I'm stumped, let me through this out to the (oracle) list" and they are grateful as am I. This list and specific individuals directly resolved a serious *sporadic* performance issue for me (stats, histograms, cursor_sharing, bind variable peaking) a while after a co-DBA change the stats gathering method after reading an article on the internet. (byt this also lead to another error that was resolved via Metalink doc and sys table update...ugly).
This list have been good to me for sure.
Chris Marquez Oracle DBA
-- --Original Message-- -- From: oracle-l-bounce@(protected) on behalf of jungwolf Sent: Thu 10/20/2005 11:20 AM To: oracle-l Subject: DATAFILE??
On 10/20/05, Marquez, Chris <cmarquez@(protected)> wrote: > This idea that this list or any list is not and never will be a waste > time, is delusional! > > *Actively* participating in this this list (by reading and/or writing) > is almost 100% waste of time. > Be honest and ask yourself if your boss was standing behind you during > all of your time spent participating on this list, would he/she say that > it was 100% productive from a business perspective?...and more power to > those DBA's that only participate during non business hours.
I disagree. Every interview I've been in, one of the questions is always, "How do you stay current?" One thing I mention is this list and the DBAs in the room nod their heads. I also mention training is part of the job and some will occur during work hours. Again, heads nod. And, finally, when I send out an email to my group that starts, "Ooo, look what I found on the list," my manager usually smiles and is grateful we're gaining the benefit of others' wisdom.
That's my experience, anyway. I tell my junior DBAs to subscribe and spend some time reading, maybe even research and try to answer some questions.
Steven -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Steven,<BR> <BR> Yes are right...I do agree and that is why I participate.<BR> <BR> I was speaking more literally...meaning while "participating" in the list I may not be doing "x" with one of my database.<BR> It was meant in a "time management" perspective and for the "all about me" perspective.<BR> <BR> I to have told my clients/boss "I'm stumped, let me through this out to the (oracle) list" and they are grateful as am I.<BR> This list and specific individuals directly resolved a serious *sporadic* performance issue for me (stats, histograms, cursor_sharing, bind variable peaking) a while after a co-DBA change the stats gathering method after reading an article on the internet. (byt this also lead to another error that was resolved via Metalink doc and sys table update...ugly).<BR> <BR> This list have been good to me for sure.<BR> <BR> Chris Marquez<BR> Oracle DBA<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> -- --Original Message-- --<BR> From: oracle-l-bounce@(protected) on behalf of jungwolf<BR> Sent: Thu 10/20/2005 11:20 AM<BR> To: oracle-l<BR> Subject: DATAFILE??<BR> <BR> On 10/20/05, Marquez, Chris <cmarquez@(protected)> wrote:<BR> > This idea that this list or any list is not and never will be a waste<BR> > time, is delusional!<BR> ><BR> > *Actively* participating in this this list (by reading and/or writing)<BR> > is almost 100% waste of time.<BR> > Be honest and ask yourself if your boss was standing behind you during<BR> > all of your time spent participating on this list, would he/she say that <BR> > it was 100% productive from a business perspective?...and more power to<BR> > those DBA's that only participate during non business hours.<BR> <BR> I disagree. Every interview I've been in, one of the questions is<BR> always, "How do you stay current?" One thing I mention is this list<BR> and the DBAs in the room nod their heads. I also mention training is<BR> part of the job and some will occur during work hours. Again, heads<BR> nod. And, finally, when I send out an email to my group that starts,<BR> "Ooo, look what I found on the list," my manager usually smiles and is<BR> grateful we're gaining the benefit of others' wisdom.<BR> <BR> That's my experience, anyway. I tell my junior DBAs to subscribe and<BR> spend some time reading, maybe even research and try to answer some<BR> questions.<BR> <BR> Steven<BR> --<BR> <A HREF="http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l">http://www.freelists.org /webpage/oracle-l</A><BR> <BR> </FONT> </P>
